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    Honda GX200 vs. Clone

    Pricing these two motors out has raised a few questions. I have determined that FOR ME the cost of getting a non-California clone would be about $150.00 or thereabouts. Even if I were to find NOS at a HF with a coupon, drive time, tax, wife bitching, etc. the cost of a Honda would be about twice the price at 309.00 shipped to my door. Does the real Honda have the aluminum (not billet) flywheel stock? I'm not starting a flywheel thread (I will use billet), but just curious if it does. NR and AFG sell a Honda aluminum flywheel and lots of guys use them instead of the ARC. If that's the case and your building a 7000 RPM engine, does it become cost effective to buy the Honda?

    A nice build will cost you 600-700.00 in parts with a flywheel + engine.

    That's 850.00 vs. 1009.00 = 15% extra for a real Honda with billet flywheel.

    Without the billet flywheel:

    850.00 vs. 909.00 = 6.5% difference

    Maybe some food for thought; maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by korndog View Post
    Pricing these two motors out has raised a few questions. I have determined that FOR ME the cost of getting a non-California clone would be about $150.00 or thereabouts. Even if I were to find NOS at a HF with a coupon, drive time, tax, wife bitching, etc. the cost of a Honda would be about twice the price at 309.00 shipped to my door. Does the real Honda have the aluminum (not billet) flywheel stock? I'm not starting a flywheel thread (I will use billet), but just curious if it does. NR and AFG sell a Honda aluminum flywheel and lots of guys use them instead of the ARC. If that's the case and your building a 7000 RPM engine, does it become cost effective to buy the Honda?

    A nice build will cost you 600-700.00 in parts with a flywheel + engine.

    That's 850.00 vs. 1009.00 = 15% extra for a real Honda with billet flywheel.

    Without the billet flywheel:

    850.00 vs. 909.00 = 6.5% difference

    Maybe some food for thought; maybe not.
    Kd i have a real honda gx 200 and mine did not come with the aluminum flywheel.

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    as far as I know the aluminum flywheels come on lawnmower vertical shaft engines and not horizonal engines..

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    Ok thanks Edwin. Thought I read that they came with cast aluminum flywheel.

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    Nope, when looking for a Honda the main parts you need is block, sidecover and crank. The other parts can either be aftermarket or clone.

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    And if you're not (re)building the engine to any kind of rules, it would likely be cheaper to get a used GX200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 65ShelbyClone View Post
    And if you're not (re)building the engine to any kind of rules, it would likely be cheaper to get a used GX200.
    Understood. I learned a lesson recently buying a NOS Raptor, that not only is it unnecessary, it can even be detrimental to buy a new engine for a build. Speaking to engine builders who like to make everything square and hum perfectly in their engines, some prefer a seasoned block before they align everything to their standards. I guess they even bake them first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minidragbike View Post
    Nope, when looking for a Honda the main parts you need is block, sidecover and crank. The other parts can either be aftermarket or clone.
    I really didn't think there was much difference. Then I compared the parts side by side. I get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 65ShelbyClone View Post
    And if you're not (re)building the engine to any kind of rules, it would likely be cheaper to get a used GX200.
    and/or a used price for a new gx200.

    Quote Originally Posted by korndog View Post
    Understood. I learned a lesson recently buying a NOS Raptor, that not only is it unnecessary, it can even be detrimental to buy a new engine for a build. Speaking to engine builders who like to make everything square and hum perfectly in their engines, some prefer a seasoned block before they align everything to their standards. I guess they even bake them first.
    Wow, i would take a new engine any day over no engine or even one used at the same price. But that's just me.
    Last edited by olajoe808; 06-10-2010 at 06:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olajoe808 View Post
    Wow, i would take a new engine any day over no engine or even one used at the same price. But that's just me.
    I'm not sure what you are saying.

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    minibiking is detrimental to my health to begin with. It could cause serious bodily injury or even worse. Now take the governor out and that would be 2x dangerous. To have a brand new engine to build on, would be to scratch out all that dangerous stuff and go straight to heaven. Not doubting a seasoned cured block to build on makes a stable platform but it's nice to have options.

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