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If I don't forget I will get pictures later today.

Thanks. It really has had it very rough thru the decades. Poor thing needs lots of TLC. I have seen the model number sometimes denotes some things about the bike but it seems random enough that it could take a long hard investigation to ever figure how the model numbers break down. I the serial...

I have a very rough Arco frame. It's a model 4921. I have seen models of 25xx,36xx,etc but no other 4921 and like most of us with new old toys, I'm curious about it. I did see a thread that said on the 25xx models the 25 stood for 2.5hp and the last digit might be the year. Anybody have any Arco...

Now I'm also a vintage dirt and street bike nut too so... Watchable got ?

I doubt that I part it but it may get hung up in the corner for a while.

@Triley41395 What model is it so that I can try to further research it ?

It looks like you very well may be right. But I can't find and pictures of any with this style handlebars. Suppose they have been swapped on off of something else ?

This is a very rough one that I recently drug in. I posted a whatsit post with the engine on it without a lot of luck. Here it is without the engine. Any thoughts on what make and model this frame is now that we can see it better ?

The front has a spring too. It's on the triple tree and kind of hard to see.

It's kind of a cool setup IMHO for a low end kids cheap toy (in the day).

I'm not knowledgeable as I would need to be to identify it. It does appear to have a Rupp swing arm. But the triple tree would have to have been changed. I have a Super Scat here too and the frames don't appear to be the same.

Me too. These needed saved.

I know. Don't it suck,what people do to vintage Americana ?

Thanks King.

It does suck that the frame rail broke. But a welder and maybe a little extra material and it can be saved. I'm curious what you mean "optioned that way" ? It looks like this one had a rear disc brake. I thought that was odd if it is original.

Who made them ? What year would this one be ? What engine did it have ?

Any ideas on make,model and year ? Wrong forks and bars ? What are they from if so ? Someone also said the gusset at the back of the neck also ?

Any idea of what model and year ?

Is it a Rupp Scrambler ? Any clues to the year ?

I have been so busy I haven't messed with it. I also have a Snowco mini scat trike that I need to get back to that I haven't messed with. I still haven't done any research to see if I can find more original literature either. Hopefully I can began messing with it a little more now. I need make a...