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You can build an electric bike for about the same cost (if not cheaper) that will behave like a kitten when you want it to. Cruise around the block or the pits silent as can be. But can also make more HP and more torque with an instant torque curve. Also doesn't need near the maintenance. No choking alky fumes, no diluted oil or clogged carbs. no fluids of any kind spilling and almost no noise.

It does suck initially to pay for and/or build the battery. And having multiple packs and constant charging between rounds can get old quick. Though I don't race professionally and just do it for fun.

My E-bikes slowly lose power after each run as the voltage drops. But I can get in a solid 10 330' pulls and cruise the pits all night on one charge with battery to spare. So not horrible. Bike pulls over 40KW of power fully charged. That's 53.6hp and ridiculous amounts of instant TQ. Talking like 80-90 ft lbs.

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For small frame race toys, electricity is the replacement for displacement. IMHO that is... ;)
 

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Don’t get me wrong I enjoy a GOOD exhaust note. But if you think a typical minibike has a good exhaust note...

I stick by my statement. If you want “fast” with the ability for it to be a dual purpose pit bike like vehicle. EV is hands down the way to go. I’ll give up the noise for 5x the acceleration. Not to mention in many situations the noise isn’t welcome. Camp vehicles, late nights, quiet neighborhoods etc.
 

65ShelbyClone

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Don’t get me wrong I enjoy a GOOD exhaust note. But if you think a typical minibike has a good exhaust note...

I stick by my statement. If you want “fast” with the ability for it to be a dual purpose pit bike like vehicle. EV is hands down the way to go. I’ll give up the noise for 5x the acceleration. Not to mention in many situations the noise isn’t welcome. Camp vehicles, late nights, quiet neighborhoods etc.
It's not just about an exhaust note either. There's something visceral and indescribably appealing about the ICE sensory experience. To get it, you have to experience it and if you experience it, it needs no explanation. If you don't get it, it feels like this conversation.
 
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It's not just about an exhaust note either. There's something visceral and indescribably appealing about the ICE sensory experience. To get it, you have to experience it and if you experience it, it needs no explanation. If you don't get it, it feels like this conversation.
This is what I was thinking
It's like how non-car people don't understand the appeal of a good sounding cars. We car people all have different preferences for what car noises we like or don't like (and more than noises ofc). Non-car people don't have a preference at all.
I will ride my mini and hear the hopped up 5hp briggs with my muffler of choice. Knowing that there is a piston slinging around in there under high load with a chain reaction of intake combustion and exhaust when knowing every inside out piece in there, and feeling those pieces with my own hands when I modded it just gives me the feels... It is for sure an "if you know you know" thing. For some people this isn't the case, which is okay, but really, it's what your goal is. that matters. Do you want to get to the end of the strip as fast as possible? Do you want to prioritize less maintenance, and maybe find dealing with the fluids, smells, or complications of an ICE is a hassle? Cool! don't get one then... Maybe electric is for you.
 
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It's not just about an exhaust note either. There's something visceral and indescribably appealing about the ICE sensory experience. To get it, you have to experience it and if you experience it, it needs no explanation. If you don't get it, it feels like this conversation.

So you are saying you have experienced a fast EV and still find it lacking by comparison? Or are you saying you have never even been in one, have no experience with them, yet still dismiss them and act like I am missing a chromosome for preferring them over ICE on a mini bike? lol.

I have built drag motors my whole life BBC, SBC, twin turbo, blown, nitrous you name it. Tons of performance gas minis too. I appreciate a good engine and the feel and sound it makes. But it is a bit hypocritical to act like I do not understand the appeal or “soul” of an ICE motor and label me an EV fanboy. When you obviously haven't experianced a quick EV. I simply give credit where it is due.

Go drive one. It is an eye opening experience and then some. Nont some crappy surron, but a real bike psuhing 30-50,000 watts at least.

I was not even trying here. This is a $100 kids bike built as a toy/joke to run against gas pit bikes at my local strip between rounds and after hours. It massively exceeded expectations. Full on alcohol drag bikes at the track barely run 7.5x in the eighth. And this is on neighborhood streets with a 3 inch bike tire and 220lb rider.

Yet I can still cruise it around like a kitten at a car show or crank out 60+ hp on a 123 lb bike. You won't ever get that kind of performance and rideability with an ICE minibike.

 

Augiedoggie

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All due respect and each of us for our personal preferences. Some folks like flatheads and some folks like the Honda clone craze. We all enjoy the thrill of motoring along at a crawl or a blur of speed. You can preach the virtue of speed and simplicity of your clone motors and your e bikes and scooters. We all get that. Few or None of the die hard (me) gearheads will switch teams and jump the electric bandwagon no matter how cheap or how fast or how far they will go. We just ain’t wired thataway.
 
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All due respect and each of us for our personal preferences. Some folks like flatheads and some folks like the Honda clone craze. We all enjoy the thrill of motoring along at a crawl or a blur of speed. You can preach the virtue of speed and simplicity of your clone motors and your e bikes and scooters. We all get that. Few or None of the die hard (me) gearheads will switch teams and jump the electric bandwagon no matter how cheap or how fast or how far they will go. We just ain’t wired thataway.
Oh, I think there's plenty of butthurt and proffessional jealousy around here without having to be told how the seat of my britches is supposed to feel on what is essentially a child's toy. :)
 
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