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    Quote Originally Posted by 19honda69 View Post
    Thanks Marcus, If you find anything let me know!
    Sent you a PM with a link, I only have 2 left so I'm out but I spotted a nice one on ebay that will only need one simple correction before paint...and its NOS so no numbers to fill

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    Hey Markus,
    I just bought it. Thanks

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    A big thanks to Markus, I tracked down all the parts needed for the conversion.I will put up pictures when I get started on it.

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    Always happy to help if I can

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    Last night, I did exactly what you want to do, by accident. I had two motors, one with the cyclone starter, one with the old school Pull start. By accident, I mixed up the two outside covers which I had just had powder coated. Both engines look identicle from the outside, they both have electronic ignition. And they were both freshly painted.

    Though it to took some moving around both covers fit on either motor. Which is what you were trying to accomplish, Putting an old cover on a newer motor. But then the problem started. The pull start. The old style pull starter does not work on the new motor. You can pull it but it won’t return, recoil. That’s because probably the cup on the flywheel is different between the two pull starters.

    I monkeyed around with it for about an hour and just gave up. And finally figured out which was the old motor and which was the new one, and put the proper covers on the appropriate motor.

    Bottom line, you’re going to have to do some work to make this happen. And it’s going to have everything to do with the flywheel. Because I could not position the cover to get the pull starter to work

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfh View Post
    Last night, I did exactly what you want to do, by accident. I had two motors, one with the cyclone starter, one with the old school Pull start. By accident, I mixed up the two outside covers which I had just had powder coated. Both engines look identicle from the outside, they both have electronic ignition. And they were both freshly painted.

    Though it to took some moving around both covers fit on either motor. Which is what you were trying to accomplish, Putting an old cover on a newer motor. But then the problem started. The pull start. The old style pull starter does not work on the new motor. You can pull it but it won’t return, recoil. That’s because probably the cup on the flywheel is different between the two pull starters.

    I monkeyed around with it for about an hour and just gave up. And finally figured out which was the old motor and which was the new one, and put the proper covers on the appropriate motor.

    Bottom line, you’re going to have to do some work to make this happen. And it’s going to have everything to do with the flywheel. Because I could not position the cover to get the pull starter to work
    Man, thats a shame. Maybe we can help you out, list up the engine numbers on the 2 engines in question or pull the parts listing both up and let us know what part number is for the part shown as 285 on the explosion for both engines.

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    Like I said I was doing it by accident. I thought I had the right covers on the right engine and didn’t realize until after I had screwed around with it for an hour that I had the two covers mixed. But it’s good information for somebody that wants to try and make their new tecumseh look old with An old motor shroud. I think if the proper cup was installed on the flywheel, that would probably solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfh View Post
    Like I said I was doing it by accident. I thought I had the right covers on the right engine and didn’t realize until after I had screwed around with it for an hour that I had the two covers mixed. But it’s good information for somebody that wants to try and make their new tecumseh look old with An old motor shroud. I think if the proper cup was installed on the flywheel, that would probably solve the problem.
    Well the original poster asking the question wont need another cup, since they actually used the same cup, he will need to take the cup loose and slip the screen on if he wants to make it looks complete but thats it.

    Since the OP is doing an HS40 I'll use HS40s to show this but you can do this on any small frames electronic ignition 1985-up as they all used the same parts, both engines found right here on the site, both NOS with with pics to verify so there is no discrepancies.

    First engine fan style recoil 1993 HS40 55565M found here in this for sale thread https://www.oldminibikes.com/forum/m...mseh-hs40.html Here is the parts breakdown list from parts tree https://www.partstree.com/parts/tecu...-parts-list-1/ scroll down the list to number 285 "starter cup" tecumseh number 34694

    2nd engine 4 post "old style" recoil 1985 HS40 55200j found here in this thread https://www.oldminibikes.com/forum/t...found-nos.html parts tree breakdown https://www.partstree.com/parts/tecu...-parts-list-1/ scroll down the list again to number 285......34694

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    All I can tell you is it didn’t work. The old-style pull start jammed and would not recoil. Same parts or not, it didn’t work on this particular motor. I know this is only one sample size, but that's what happened on this motor.
    Last edited by cfh; 06-14-2018 at 07:11 PM.

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    Shroud and recoil arrived

    Got my shroud and recoil. Waiting on the cage and cup.
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