A witness to the past

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A nice essay I want to share
At 89, I know I am not a historian, but I am history and I fear its repetition. Perhaps this is the price or curse of advanced age – to witness a timid present unfit to face either its future, or its past mistakes.

Long ago, I experienced the same crisis of ideas and faith that we face today. You see, I was born in the shadow of the first Great War, during a decade that roared with innovation, social injustice, debt and revolution. A midwife delivered me into the tired arms of my mother and the backward world of a coal-mining town in the north of England divided by class, education and wealth that was held by too few families.

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My memories stretch back to a time when lamp lighters trolled dusky, teatime streets and lit the way home for my sister and me. I was 5 and I was the colour of night because along with my sister, I had spent a frozen afternoon foraging for coal on top of a slag heap at the edge of town. Our bounty was to be used to heat the rooms our parents rented in a flophouse, whose tenants were the unemployed, the infirm and the unwanted. They were victims of changing economies, national debt and plain indifference by those with a better roof over their heads.

Many a night I went to bed hungry, my sister beside me, and fed my soul with nursery rhymes and lullabies. There were also too many mornings when I awoke and was forced to forage for breakfast in the dumpsters along my route to school. I was not alone. Many other children shared my hunger and kept me company while I dug through garbage looking for discarded fruit. We were a whole generation of men, women and helpless children, tossed into the gutter after the economies of the world collapsed.

My family fell sooner, quicker and harder than most because my father was considered redundant labour after injuring himself at work. He was spent capital to the mine owners and struck into the books of the unemployed, like a neat mathematical formula. His subtraction from the labour pool meant that for my family’s survival I was added into the workaday world of adults, at the age of 7.

I became an afternoon barrow boy and plied a cart filled with beer bottles down despair-filled cobbled streets. I delivered ale to those in my neighbourhood looking for a short respite from their diminished lives, which were being suffocated by the Depression.

As I grew, so it seemed did the problems of the world, and by the time I was 16, the world was at war. At 18, like the rest of my generation, I joined the armed forces and did my bit for king and country. In many ways the great cataclysm of the Second World War irradiated for most nations the economic cancer of the past decade.

Along with so many who witnessed or participated in that war, I fell into the heady optimism of peace. I believed in governments that promised better days were nigh. I believed in prime ministers and ministers of state who said from this day forward, no child would go hungry. I agreed when industries and economists said no one was to be without work, if they were willing to pull their fair share of the load. I accepted that unions had a moral right to demand safe and secure employment. Work was to be a means to a better life, not just a threadbare existence. For me, it was truly a new era and required a new and promised land: Canada.

My wife and I disembarked in Montreal in 1953 and made our way by train to Toronto. I was in awe at this country’s size and depth. To my eyes, Canada was large enough to hold every new voice, divergent idea and difference of opinion coming to her shores.

As a young immigrant I paid my dues to this new country. I found work, paid my taxes and accepted my civic responsibilities. My hard work was rewarded and I was able to purchase a home for my young and growing family. In summer, I cut my backyard grass, and in winter, I shovelled the snow from my driveway. It was marvellous to me how far I had travelled: from street urchin to respectable, middle-class man.

Each day, I reminded myself how hard-fought was the road I had taken from the slums to the suburbs. Each day, I gloried in my three sons, who experienced childhood without poverty or hunger. Yet even then, I understood I was fortunate and owed a debt to my country.

I accepted that my tax dollars, along with every citizen’s contribution, helped pay for and sustain the nation. My friends, my peers and my superiors also held this notion of supporting the common good. It crossed political, social and religious divides because it seemed reasonable and just. Back then, everybody knew somebody who had died in the war or suffered during the Depression and knew the brevity of life.

Today, however, as I reach the end of my time, I find that we are returning to the blackness of the thirties. The evening streets may be awash in an electric afterglow, but children still go to bed hungry and hopeless. A great many people are being written up in the black book of redundancy, as if they were waste from the cutting-room floor.

Too many of us ask for expedient solutions to our society’s ills but want to push the tab down the table. Too many of us read or watch economists, bankers, investment brokers as if they alone were the answer to our problems in Canada and the Western world.

But the problem is not just debt and economic malaise. All of us must work together – the middle class, the poor, the rich – to make a balanced country, a society that can reward entrepreneurs and protect the vulnerable. Instead, like in the thirties, we are divided by class and money.

Many historians have said that the people of my epoch were tested and found true. I don’t know if that is true or not because I am not a historian. But I do wonder, what will tomorrow’s generation say of us today?

Harry Leslie Smith
Belleville, Ont.
 

Oldsalt

Well-Known Member
#3
A nice essay I want to share


during a decade that roared with innovation, social injustice, debt and revolution.

divided by class, education and wealth that was held by too few families.

tenants were the unemployed, the infirm and the unwanted.

victims of changing economies, national debt and plain indifference by those with a better roof over their heads.

tossed into the gutter after the economies of the world collapsed.

my father was considered redundant labour after injuring himself at work.

he was spent capital to the mine owners and struck into the books of the unemployed, like a neat mathematical formula.

down despair-filled cobbled streets.

looking for a short respite from their diminished lives,

the economic cancer of the past decade.

awash in an electric afterglow, but children still go to bed hungry and hopeless.

people are being written up in the black book of redundancy, as if they were waste from the cutting-room floor.

we are divided by class and money.

Harry Leslie Smith
Belleville, Ont.

NOS.

A real tear jerker.

I culled the above the dogmatic catch-phrases from the essay. Convinced me 100% that this guy was from GB and did in fact settle in another socialist country such as Canada. These phrases are the heart and subject of the essay. If you scrape away the nonessential you end up with only the above.

No matter how you cut it, this guy is indulging in class warfare. He can't help it...he was raised up on it. All these catch phrases, as is always the case with socialist drivel, are offered up as God Given TRUTHS. And are subliminally 'slipped' into the main discourse and are not ever offered up for discussion regarding their validity. Same ol' BS.

Interestingly the last couple of paragraphs were sorta devoted to: "Lets All Work Together; because even the rich and landed ruling class that oppresses us might not be all that bad". Predictable prating. An effort to appear super open-minded.
 
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NOS.

A real tear jerker.

I culled the above the dogmatic catch-phrases from the essay. Convinced me 100% that this guy was from GB and did in fact settle in another socialist country such as Canada. These phrases are the heart and subject of the essay. If you scrape away the nonessential you end up with only the above.

No matter how you cut it, this guy is indulging in class warfare. He can't help it...he was raised up on it. All these catch phrases, as is always the case with socialist drivel, are offered up as God Given TRUTHS. And are subliminally 'slipped' into the main discourse and are not ever offered up for discussion regarding their validity. Same ol' BS.

Interestingly the last couple of paragraphs were sorta devoted to: "Lets All Work Together; because even the rich and landed ruling class that oppresses us might not be all that bad". Predictable prating. An effort to appear super open-minded.
I never indulge in class war fair.
God gives not trueth, for in the mind of a Marxists he is a conceptual tool used buy the ruling classes to control the workers.
And those rich fellows aren't so bad, in fact they are delicious!

I just link this because I love the Nosher's little speach lol.
Motörhead - "Eat The Rich" - YouTube

Sometimes a good story deserves to just be read and enjoyed without a critical judment lol?
 
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Oldsalt

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NOS

Quote: "I never indulge in class warfare". Amazing! Absolutely amazing. Spoken like a true Marxist. And this directly on the heels of having posted an "essay" that contains, as I pointed out, 13 classic commie class warfare touch stones!!!

Then you go on to opine that God and his ilk are, and this is a direct quote, "....in the minds of a Marxist he [lower case 'h' is yours] is a conceptual tool used by the ruling classes to control the workers". This might come as a shock so maybe you better sit down. That quote of yours was 100% dyed in the wool class warfare. Sorry to have to be the one that tells you this.

Looks like you can no longer able to recognize class warfare even if it came up and bit you on the leg.

Really, as an admitted Marxist you should at least, as an absolute bare minimum, peruse the last paragraph of the Manifesto of the Communist Party. If you don't have a copy I will be willing take the time to send you a facsimile of that last page so that you will know that being a Marxist and promoting class warfare are inseparable.
 

danc9

New Member
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Thank You

oldsalt......may God continue to bless the United State of America. So long as "He" has at least two or more, you and I, to recognize "Him", "He" will continue to do so! We are protected from "outsiders", nonbelievers and the like. And so long as we have blood running through our veins we will study all writing for the "Truth"!!! We will inform others of our findings and thank GOD for the right to do so until we die.



IMHO,

DAN
 
#9
Dan:
This is how Oldsalt and I taunt and have a little fun with each other.
No offence to your religious beliefs intended.

A little religion is a good thing.( of religious people I know all are fine upstanding types who's right to worship is something I strongly agree with and suport ).

Even if I am not a religious person I suport any decent peacful man who is.

You see Oldalt plays the part of the right wing wack job and I fill the roll of the pragmatic and responsible leftist thinker lol.
We do actualy make some points now and then.
But I just liked this article and reposted it here.
Oldsalt provides a window on an alternative ( and valid to many ) interpretation of themes inside.
What you can't see is Oldsalt is actualy wearing a red T shirt with a picture of Che on it as he smokes his black market Cuban stogie and waits for the day Castro dies and he can buy some property in Cuba lol.

Nosher Powel as home secretery that's funny stuff
 
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Oldsalt

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The truth of the matter: Marx/Religion

Marx, for the Manifesto, borrowed a bunch from a predecessor by the name of Victor Considerants who wrote Principles du Socialisme [published 1843]. A much brighter guy than Karl judging by his interest in real solutions...not just ranting about social ills and promotion of senseless revolution. Considerant pointed out that high ideals of political and social reform are nothing but Christian ideals. Marx with his usual double talk made every attempt to conceal the intent of doing away with all religions...especially Christianity. As NOS so exactly pointed out; Commies see it as a tool to exploit the 'downtrodden'. I am not sure how it is possible to hold that belief. The only people that really got downtrodden were the hapless people that were unlucky enough to live in or near a nation that was ruled by Commies and Socialists. Yes, Marxist government has been tried and the results are in for anyone that is not brain dead. The Russian Marxist Revolution produced a society [actually a ruthless government controlled jail] that threw out religion. Result: Millions of freeborn Russians wasted away their lives in Communist labor camps...and worse, millions and millions of lives were snuffed out because Commie policies were based on thin air. It was a horrible mess from it's start to the time it fell into shards. So Marx got his dream...and it was a nightmare in every case.

When Marx was studying up on Considerant he really should have paid more attention when it was pointed out that ..."is an allusion to think that Christianity can be replaced by a better religion". By "better religion" Considerant meant any belief system that is based on POLITICAL ideas rather than humanistic ideas. That is why EVERY Marxist governing plan has failed. And that's the truth.
 
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I too enjoyed your story. However, I can’t necessarily agree with all that you wrote. We are all the captains of our own ship. Some may be luckier than others, but we all have the ability and opportunity to achieve a comfortable level of existence. Neither our parents nor our government owe us anything, it is we who owe. Newoldstock, it certainly sounds like you come from very humble beginnings, but rose above it to build yourself a decent life. I’m going to guess that you did that through a combination of education and hard work – not because of a handout from somebody. No disrespect to your father intended, as in his era he likely had little choice but to work in the mines. In this day and age, you cannot expect to muddle through high school, only to be handed a high (or even decent) paying job for your unskilled labor. That is just not a reasonable expectation. Strong economies are built on the skill and intelligence of the workforce, not unskilled labor. This is not to imply that everybody needs to go to college. However everybody who hopes to support him or herself (as well as a family) must be prepared to learn some skill that has value to the economy, be it welder, carpenter, etc. I’ve read several articles recently about numerous companies desperate to fill good paying, skilled jobs as machinists, heavy equipment mechanics, and others. I also have to say that regardless what the “99 percenters” say, the rich are not the problem – at least not the entire problem. The 1% are the people who build factories, hire workers, and grow economies. I will, however concede that prior to 2008, making money had become more about juggling paper than making widgets, but I do believe that it’s the minority that made the rest look bad. Same goes for the working class. Most are good, hardworking citizens, but for every crooked wall streeter, there’s a Chrysler worker drinking beer and smoking pot at lunch time (you may recall recent news stories). The 99% and the 1% need each other whether they like it or not. The “rich” need a skilled, competent, and reliable work force to build industry. The working class need the “rich” to create those jobs. The days of walking out of high school and into a high paying job at the local GM plant are over, and likely will not return. We can’t build an economy on Walmart cashiers and MacDonald’s burger flippers (or college graduates with a B.A in Russian literature). Oh, and thanks for your service in WWII. Without it we may not be here to have this discussion.
 

Oldsalt

Well-Known Member
#12
RobK

You say that we are captains of our own ship. You are obviously one of the self styled 'conservatives' that believe that the government is not there to make all people equal by what ever means necessary. Not just equal opportunity. But equal RESULTS. That is what is needed. Just because a person decides to speak and writes Ebonics only and decides it is OK to have a criminal record and decides it is OK to kill abundant amounts of brain cells by taking dope should not mean that he should not have equal results in his work life. The fact that some diligently study, obey the laws, work hard and lead a clean life should not in any way keep the 'downtrodden' from attaining the same financial result in their working life as another simply because he did not apply himself. That would be UNFAIR!

The only way we are to attain a 'just' society is to demand that strong athletically endowed persons be required to were lead weights and etc. to get their physical performance down to a "norm". Same with good looks. If some folks are too pretty or too handsome they would be required to have things done to them to make them 'mid percentile' ugly. If, in their family life, they decide not to have more children than they can afford to support with out government aid they would have to accept a few from the more 'prolific'. Also smarts needs to be regulated if we are to attain that utopian society that us right thinking Socialist strive for. People that are too damned smart would be required to take 'dumb pills' or some such thing so that they are on par with the great unwashed that use unregulated substances to kill unwanted brain cells. The rotten oppressors of the masses that are born into money and property would have to give it all away so that they were of 'average' wealth. The last thing that really needs to be done is sometimes referred to as 'redistribution of wealth'. That is a hard-hearted conservative phrase that, for some reason, cannot see it is only just and fair. It is really easy for the government to do; Obama is working very hard to get it done. All that is necessary is to tax the producers and give it to the non or marginal producers. That is easy, and what could be wrong with that?
 
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