For the price, and especially if you are on a tight budget, they are a decent pipe. What type of bike are you putting it on? I ask because my son ("The Ruppster 86") bought their pipe/muffler combination for the HF clone on his Doodlebug, and they told him that it would fit- IT DID NOT.
ut: He had to have it heat-bent so that it would clear the rear frame. :grind:Since then, he has "upgraded" to ctjmini's header/muffler pipe which is FAR superior:thumbsup: in both looks and quality.