Tecumseh HS40 ( A Challenge )

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1970 HS40


As the title says a challenge, given to me by a good friend. HS40 not mini bike correct or lighted. Hopefully its a good engine and with a little luck I can make it work on a mini bike.



 
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This engine is a little rusty and has some small problems....but I believe it can still be a runner ! The challenge is between me and a friend.
 
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Kenny you might be right ! But so far I like what I'm seeing , a little carboned up under the head ....but the cylinder wall looks great!



No ring groove at all in the top of the cylinder.




Aluminum flywheel seems to be in good condition and so is the crankshaft nut and threads.
 
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Normal points type Ignition system seems to be all there and nothing hanging out side the block....all is good so far ! :wink:






Thinking about a thread that Markus did on the circular looking spacers under the valve springs ....and thought I would check this one. Sure enough it has one under each spring....doesn't seem to be a valve seal, maybe just a steel spacer to keep the aluminum from ware.



Kinda Impressed with with the valve size on this hs40, Int valve diameter is 1.079 or about 27mm, Exh valve diameter is .974 or about 24.7 mm.



So far ...so good , but here goes the side cover....:scared:




OK ..this is something that I wasn't expecting...what tha !?!? First look at a 1970 HS40 camshaft for me and this is what I see. Massive Int. lobe with a compression release ...:confused: and a very normal looking exh. lobe.



Both lobes are cut on different base circles.....so really not much more lift than a regular cam. Sorry I didn't measure the lift....so it is what it is.

Heres the lifters, and not surprising that one is a whole lot shorter than the other one.

Int. lifter ( short one ) measures 1.321
Exh. lifter (longer one) measures 1.477


Not spots...just a paint marker...to help forget fullness ..:laugh:



Cylinder measures 2.623 at the top...piston measures 2.620 at the skirt.


Rod journal measures 1.000

 
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E--if I can bring an H60 back to life, you can do this with your eyes closed and one hand tied behind your back. You'll be surprised at how much power this little engine has. I had one on the build-off Ruttman and it pulled my 200 lbs easily. :thumbsup:
 
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Thanks Pete....and yea its a little better than expected. Just glad the block is looking good, but nothing measured out yet.
 
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OK ..this is something that I wasn't expecting...what tha !?!? First look at a 1970 HS40 camshaft for me and this is what I see. Massive Int. lobe with a compression release ...:confused: and a very normal looking exh. lobe.



Both lobes are cut on different base circles.....so really not much more lift than a regular cam. Sorry I didn't measure the lift....so it is what it is.

Heres the lifters, and not surprising that one is a whole lot shorter than the other one.

Int. lifter ( short one ) measures 1.321
Exh. lifter (longer one) measures 1.477
I figured Markus would know something about the funky cam and short lifter: :laugh:

Another thing that they were using on these most of these HS engines up into 1970 was a cam with a mechanical compression release on the intake side (compared here to a typical built into the exhaust lobe version after 1970, note the larger lobe and shorter lifter)



These are nice due to the fact that as soon as its spinning the flyweight pulls the little pin that raises the valve away and you go to full compression, where the built in always bumps the exhaust valve open as it pulls though the cycle. The bad is it seems pretty hokey and looks weak, and they did away with it for some reason, I would guess it was just way cheaper to go the fixed way more than anything.
 

markus

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That things clean, you can tell its not a mini bike engine....they are usually whipped :laugh: Will you be able to turn that PTO side out into something usable? You'll like that cam, They run very well with those and still ez-pull :thumbsup:
 
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Yea Kenny, when I first seen the cam..I'm thinking what tha.:censure: especially with the compression release on the int. lobe...So I googled it and the first thread I found was Markus...the same thread that you are looking at .
 
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Yep right again Markus...not a mini bike engine,and that cam still blows my mind ! As far as the pto side of the crank....well now the challenge begins.
 
#13
I have 3 of those HS40 engines (plus just sold one on a minibike). All run very, very good. I don't see the challenge in this thread. You have a great engine there and should be surprised with the power output of it. Just use some super fine sand paper and run it between the points a few times to clean them up. Set gap at 0.020", turn the coil counter clockwise in its mount to advance the timing and run it !
The cam is fine. Without the compression release, they get hard to pull start. My advice is to leave the cam alone. Set valve lash to spec (you'll have to look it up as I don't remember) not too wide as that reduces lift and duration, and enjoy the ride.

Danford1
 

markus

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Yep right again Markus...not a mini bike engine,and that cam still blows my mind ! As far as the pto side of the crank....well now the challenge begins.
Those cams are the reason that really sketchy looking cut out on the crank is there.....to clear that ginormous lobe :laugh: They resorted back to mechanical over the fixed bump on the very late built engine, but it was a different setup that used equal length lifters. They are composite though and not steel. I want to try one on a stock rebuild soon, That little bit of grunt you gain with the full compression feels pretty good....but that kickback/hard start with the lobe ground off a fixed release cam is no fun.....Its really bad on an HS50!
 
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Thanks Pete, just something this old guy does...:confused::eek:ut::laugh:


Got a few parts in for this engine and still waiting on some. Also fabbed up an exhaust system for it. Thanks Markus that exhaust flange fits like a glove !:thumbsup: I bent the pipe on my old JD squared bender ...but couldn't get the bends close enough, but it close enough for me.










 
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