Ok so i was mounting my new clone onto cjtmini's mounting plate. I put alittle bit of loctite on all of the bolts that mount the engine to the plate, and the plate to the frame. I got a phone call and got sidetracked. When i was done i started working on mounting the clutch and little bits here and there. When i went to tighten the chain and move the engine forward, i couldnt tighten the bolts. The loctite has set and locked the nut onto the bolt. When i tighten it the bolt just spins. I cant reach the head of the bolt to hold it in place because it is hidden under the engine.(anyone with knowledge of cjtmins plate knows what i mean). So basically i cant take my engine off the plate and i cant take the plate off, or even tighten the nuts, to the frame. WHAT SHOULD I DO?! i think im going to have to get a nut cutter and start over. I cant believe i let the loctite set. Im kicking myself. I cant ride it STILL!!! Please help me. What are my options? Nut cutter, heat? solvent? DAMN!
MEGA PROBLEM. IM SO STUPID. Can you help?
Get a profane torch and gently heat your nuts, the Loctite will melt and give up the fight.....
I Like to use self locking nuts AND lock washers as a back up, but there are all kinds of other choices. Best thing to do is figuere out what is enough to hold your bolts in place. Sometimes you can get away with a weaker grade of loctite like the blue
I Like to use self locking nuts AND lock washers as a back up, but there are all kinds of other choices. Best thing to do is figuere out what is enough to hold your bolts in place. Sometimes you can get away with a weaker grade of loctite like the blue
If you just used regular blue or red loctite you should be able to heat it up and it'll break down the loctite. You dont have to get too crazy, just a little propane torch will do the trick. Another trick to is to put some pressure on the bolts if you can only reach one side, so if you can pry inbetween the plate and the motor/frame and then try to turn the bolt it might put enough pressure on the nut to hold it in place. Good luck!
I guess I will make a revision to my instructions "DO NOT USE THREAD LOCTITE OR NYLON LOCK NUTS"
why would you put loctite on the bolts? you will eventually have to loosen them to adjust the chain
try heating the nuts and put a wedge between the plate and the frame to loosen the lower nuts and wedge between the engine and plate to loosen the top
Good luck
why would you put loctite on the bolts? you will eventually have to loosen them to adjust the chain
try heating the nuts and put a wedge between the plate and the frame to loosen the lower nuts and wedge between the engine and plate to loosen the top
Good luck
There is nothing wrong with using a thread locker or self locking nut if the aplication justfies it. I use the removable blue stuff on lots of things where vibration is an issue. Never use Nylocks in places where heat can soften them or chemicals can desolve them
Sometimes two standard nuts locked together are enough its something like a change adjutsment or a little dab of RTV silicon to ensure a nut doens't back off works too
Sometimes two standard nuts locked together are enough its something like a change adjutsment or a little dab of RTV silicon to ensure a nut doens't back off works too
Thanks for the help. I will try using a wedge and heat. I like the wedge idea. I think that will be most helpfull in my situation. I used loctite because on my gokart they would rattle loose. I didnt want to have to go back and tighten things down or even replace a lost nut. Ive been riding the bike with only 2 bolts holding the engine down. The otehr two bolts are just stuck there not really holding it down tight. This thing FLYS! I dont even care to mod it yet, its super fast already.
nope, just regular nuts.
the bolts actually "lock onto" the plate when you tighten them down. i guess it just has to do with the way they're countersunk in. if they didn't do this, you wouldn't be able to tighten them if you installed the engine plate first. i've swapped engines in my DB with the plate already bolted to the frame several times. i've had to hold end of the bolt with pliers a few times to be able to get the bolt to grab so i could actually tighten it but that's not the case most of the time.
it makes much more sense once you see a pic of how it's setup or have done it.
the bolts actually "lock onto" the plate when you tighten them down. i guess it just has to do with the way they're countersunk in. if they didn't do this, you wouldn't be able to tighten them if you installed the engine plate first. i've swapped engines in my DB with the plate already bolted to the frame several times. i've had to hold end of the bolt with pliers a few times to be able to get the bolt to grab so i could actually tighten it but that's not the case most of the time.
it makes much more sense once you see a pic of how it's setup or have done it.
