Not getting pissy, and totally understand the pics help tons. I am new to the motors i have gotten, think they are great, also enjoy bringing them back to life. Don't answer the questions,if it is that much trouble. Sorry. Just thought that i could get some answers about certain questions i have about the motors i own. Get :censure: 70% of the time. but it never hurts to ask.:thumbsup: I understand the HB clones are the motor of chose of most on here, i just don't have that motor. I got lucky with the cool Tec's.