Harbor Freight Ghost Engine

[Gatecrasher]

I just got another 25% off coupon from Harbor Freight. I don't see anything saying I can't use it towards a ghost predator engine.

The current price for the engine is $329.99

With the coupon that would make the price $247.49

Sounds like a pretty-decent deal doesn't it?



https://www.harborfreight.com/generators-engines/engines/212cc-ghost-kart-racing-engine-57531.html

 

[sparkwizard]

Excellent deal! Does it come with carb and exhaust?

 

[BrownStainRacing]

I just got another 25% off coupon from Harbor Freight. I don't see anything saying I can't use it towards a ghost predator engine.

The current price for the engine is $329.99

With the coupon that would make the price $247.49

Sounds like a pretty-decent deal doesn't it?

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https://www.harborfreight.com/generators-engines/engines/212cc-ghost-kart-racing-engine-57531.html

Here's another option, if you are looking for another engine, more cc, jus add a flywheel.

https://www.dynocams.com/item/224-1000/

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1158458757...bfwvmiqrr-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

[Charles S]

The Ducar 212 has a stronger block, a much better flywheel (PVL) and it costs less, it's the 212 I would buy.

https://www.dynocams.com/item/212-1000/ducar212/

HF's coupons usually exclude all Predator branded products.

 

[Charles S]

I checked the shipping charge for the Ducar 212 from Dyno Cams to my address, it was $36.11, for a total of $255.26.

 

[BrownStainRacing]

I checked the shipping charge for the Ducar 212 from Dyno Cams to my address, it was $36.11, for a total of $255.26.

You must live closer.
They need $5 more to ship the Ducar 224 to me, lol.

But thats still only around $230 for a non governored 224cc

 

[Gatecrasher]

Sounds like a better deal.

 

[chrisr]

Maybe another option? I bought this for my aluminum frame golf cart that I converted to a 30 series clutch system with a live axle and very happy with it.

https://www.eccarburetors.com/wildcat-223-electric-start-engine

Also, included are some pretty good reads.
https://gokartnerds.com/predator-ghost-review/
https://gokartnerds.com/best-go-kart-engines/
https://gokartnerds.com/predator-224-vs-212/

 

[Harquebus]

....I don't see anything saying I can't use it towards a ghost predator engine.

If their store policy has changed, let us know, but their coupons have historically excluded a lot of the big items like power tools, welders and engines and various other things.

 

[BrownStainRacing]

I pulled the trigger today and ordered the Ducar 224.

Randy says it comes with a cast cam gear, not like the predator 224 that comes with a plastic cam gear.

I'll tear it down and check the clearances before I fire it up.

 

[chrisr]

I pulled the trigger today and ordered the Ducar 224.

Randy says it comes with a cast cam gear, not like the predator 224 that comes with a plastic cam gear.

I'll tear it down and check the clearances before I fire it up.

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So it does not look like a flywheel is included "The standard Ducar 224cc does not come equipped with a flywheel. Flywheels we suggest for this engine include the DC-PVL-FW and the ARC-6689". What are you planning on doing for a flywheel?

 

[BrownStainRacing]

So it does not look like a flywheel is included "The standard Ducar 224cc does not come equipped with a flywheel. Flywheels we suggest for this engine include the DC-PVL-FW and the ARC-6689". What are you planning on doing for a flywheel?

I've got a pvl flywheel from a Ducar 212.

Some customers want to run the head light, so I trade a stock flywheel and lighting coils for thier pvl flywheel.

Of coarse they gotta throw in some $ for me to change it out and set ignition timing.

I've gotta a cast aluminum from a tilly 212r also.

 

[Gatecrasher]

Does it have the internal governor or not? It looks like it does.

 

[BrownStainRacing]

Does it have the internal governor or not? It looks like it does.

The Ducar 224 has no governor.

I'm tearing it down now checking bolt torq and clearances. So far, it's a quality box engine, but I expect that from Ducar.

I've torn down 4 or 5 NEW Ducar 212's, and they are so consistent, there's no reason for me to open them up for clearance checks or bolt torq for that matter.

 

[Gatecrasher]

it says it come with a Hauyi Carb. Do you guys usually put a Mikuni on it? If so what size?

 

[BrownStainRacing]

it says it come with a Hauyi Carb. Do you guys usually put a Mikuni on it? If so what size?

You don't want or need a slide carb, imho.

The "how-r-ya" carb is a low quality standard bored stock carb.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it for beginners.

I recommend a bored Stock Appearing carb for the more experienced.

 

[sparkwizard]

You are a brave man recommending a stock appearing carb for a hot rod engine. I applaud you!
I do not use motorcycle carbs on rope-start lawn engines. Maybe we should start a REVOLUTION!

 

[Harquebus]

The Ducar 224 has no governor.

I'm tearing it down now checking bolt torq and clearances. So far, it's a quality box engine, but I expect that from Ducar.

I've torn down 4 or 5 NEW Ducar 212's, and they are so consistent, there's no reason for me to open them up for clearance checks or bolt torq for that matter.

That's one hell of a useful post; a succinct explanation of the quality you get and photos to prove it, no less.

 

[BrownStainRacing]

Here's some more pics.

I didn't pull the rod and piston for piston to cylinder clearance and ring ends gaps.

This 1 is sold.

Crank is clearanced for compression release and exhaust lobe.
I'm add a .005" cam shim between block and cam, jus for peace of mind.

It should be around 8.6- 8.7:1 compression ratio.

Cam lift is .222- .223" both intake and exhaust

Rod bolt torq was 11-12ft/lbs.

Crank endplay at .010"

Head hasket thickness .0415"

head bolt torq 19-20 ft/lbs

side cover bolt torq, 17-18 ft/lbs

This is a very good quality engine. This would be cheaper then refreshing a 196 or any 212.

It has the clone crank shaft taper, so any clone flywheel will fit.

crank big end is same as any clone crank, i didnt check wrist pin size, maybe the next 1 i can.

Any questions, jus ask.

 

[Gatecrasher]

You are a brave man recommending a stock appearing carb for a hot rod engine. I applaud you!
I do not use motorcycle carbs on rope-start lawn engines. Maybe we should start a REVOLUTION!

Why not? Care to elaborate other than "I don't use"?

Do the Hauyi carbs actually perform better than a Mikuni?