The MB200-2 has arrived.

HerzogVonSchilf

HerzogVonSchilf

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update: i got my tire fixed at les schwab, they were super nice about it and did it for free, and said just to go there next time i needed something:deal: so anyway, my bike is now up and running nice again. on a side note i tried to take off the heat shield of the exhaust manifold and they have that dang thing on so tight that when i unscrewed both it launched one of the screws into the only corner of the engine that’s impossibly hard to reach, as seen here
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anyway after taking apart half the engine trying to reach that stupid thing i happened to look up at the brake lever and notice these little prongs
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now i turned on the engine and tried to use a tester to see if the wires were live when i pulled the lever but i suspect i used the instrument wrong or it didn’t have enough volts to show anything. i think this is for an addition of brake lights but what do you guys think?
 
Charles S

Charles S

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I would say it is a brake light switch; not much else it could be. There won't be any current at those terminals; it isn't wired. In use a wire would run from the source to the switch and a wire would run from the switch to the brake light.
 
HerzogVonSchilf

HerzogVonSchilf

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Charles S said:
I would say it is a brake light switch; not much else it could be. There won't be any current at those terminals; it isn't wired. In use a wire would run from the source to the switch and a wire would run from the switch to the brake light.
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hmm okay good to know. i wouldn’t mind adding a brake light just cuz... do you know if there’s a battery on the MB? i haven’t seen it yet if there is, and i assumed there isn’t one since the light is magneto powered not a switch.

on a semi related note, how hard would it be to add or switch to an electric start?
edit: i realize now there’s a lot of converters to electric starters, does anyone know of one that also keeps the pull start as well? i would like an electric start but would also like a pull start as a backup
 
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Charles S

Charles S

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I don't own an MB200-2 but I'm pretty sure it does not have a battery. Since it has a headlight, I'm guessing a tail/brake light wouldn't be difficult to add; I'd go LED for minimum draw.

IMO, the easiest way to get electric start would be an engine swap. You can get an electric/recoil start 212cc Lifan for around $200; unbolt one clone, bolt in another; add battery and wiring. You could sell the 196 or find a roller to drop it in.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lifan-Engi...d=261785959840&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507

https://www.amazon.com/Lifan-Engine...&pf_rd_p=b841581f-e864-5164-afa6-4c18a8348879

A more interesting swap, IMO, would be a Lifan 200cc motorcycle type engine; 16 hp @ 8,500 rpm, 11 lb-ft @ 7,000 rpm, multi-plate wet clutch, 5-speed transmission, electric start w/ kick backup, all for less than the cost of a typical clone build. BTW, this engine is a knockoff (clone) of a Honda design, too. Obviously, this swap would be a lot more involved, but I think the result would be worth it. You would need to fabricate front, rear and top engine mounts. With the primary reduction (crank to clutch), the various transmission ratios, and the 8,500 rpm, you could run a small rear sprocket (the stock TM 38t should work) and you would have plenty of power and top end (maybe too much for the TM's tires and/or wheel bearings). Understand that this is a manual transmission; you would need to move the brake lever to the right side, necessitating a new master cylinder (front brake unit for a motorcycle) or convert to foot brake (use a motorcycle rear brake master cylinder), and add a clutch lever to the left. You also may need to relocate foot pegs to work with the shifter, or fabricate shifter linkage to work with existing foot peg location. As I said, much more involved than the first option, but would result in a BA TM.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LIFAN-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIFAN-200C...683885?hash=item257b50d0ed:g:l2gAAOxyYANTYZo9
 
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Tom S.

Tom S.

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Charles S said:
...IMO, the easiest way to get electric start would be an engine swap. You can get an electric/recoil start 212cc Lifan for around $200; unbolt one clone, bolt in another; add battery and wiring. You could sell the 196 or find a roller to drop it in...
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Free shipping, too. What a great, bolt-on solution to get an electric starer on your mini. Adding the required battery will also make it easier to install lights, and perhaps a Dukes of Hazzard replica air horn.
 
HerzogVonSchilf

HerzogVonSchilf

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Charles S said:
I don't own an MB200-2 but I'm pretty sure it does not have a battery. Since it has a headlight, I'm guessing a tail/brake light wouldn't be difficult to add; I'd go LED for minimum draw.

IMO, the easiest way to get electric start would be an engine swap. You can get an electric/recoil start 212cc Lifan for around $200; unbolt one clone, bolt in another; add battery and wiring. You could sell the 196 or find a roller to drop it in.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lifan-Engi...d=261785959840&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507

https://www.amazon.com/Lifan-Engine...&pf_rd_p=b841581f-e864-5164-afa6-4c18a8348879

A more interesting swap, IMO, would be a Lifan 200cc motorcycle type engine; 16 hp @ 8,500 rpm, 11 lb-ft @ 7,000 rpm, multi-plate wet clutch, 5-speed transmission, electric start w/ kick backup, all for less than the cost of a typical clone build. BTW, this engine is a knockoff (clone) of a Honda design, too. Obviously, this swap would be a lot more involved, but I think the result would be worth it. You would need to fabricate front, rear and top engine mounts. With the primary reduction (crank to clutch), the various transmission ratios, and the 8,500 rpm, you could run a small rear sprocket (the stock TM 38t should work) and you would have plenty of power and top end (maybe too much for the TM's tires and/or wheel bearings). Understand that this is a manual transmission; you would need to move the brake lever to the right side, necessitating a new master cylinder (front brake unit for a motorcycle) or convert to foot brake (use a motorcycle rear brake master cylinder), and add a clutch lever to the left. You also may need to relocate foot pegs to work with the shifter, or fabricate shifter linkage to work with existing foot peg location. As I said, much more involved than the first option, but would result in a BA TM.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LIFAN-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIFAN-200C...683885?hash=item257b50d0ed:g:l2gAAOxyYANTYZo9
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haha yeah that sounds like a job for “someday” for me:weld: honestly though, that idea sounds pretty good for just a brand new custom bike. I'm thinking that you could get that engine for $450 say the frame for $75 brakes wiring wheels chain for maybe another $200? my costs may be slightly off that would be like dirt bike performance for mini bike cost...

...or i could just do that to my mini bike when i eventually(inevitably) want more:deal:(and when i have more money b/c i’m broke from buying this)
 
Raskin

Raskin

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Tom S. said:
Free shipping, too. What a great, bolt-on solution to get an electric starer on your mini. Adding the required battery will also make it easier to install lights, and perhaps a Dukes of Hazzard replica air horn.
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Hahaha..i think you're required to do a big jump when the horn sounds..:laugh:
 
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