Tony Stewart Incident
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And on that I agree. Not making excuses for anyone.
Years ago I almost clipped a safety worker during a yellow. Two cars had wrecked and we we going slow. The safety guy jumped back from the wreck he was tending and almost walked into the line of cars as we were parading around. It is not as easy to see everything on the track as some of you think.
Years ago I almost clipped a safety worker during a yellow. Two cars had wrecked and we we going slow. The safety guy jumped back from the wreck he was tending and almost walked into the line of cars as we were parading around. It is not as easy to see everything on the track as some of you think.
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As far as Stewart racing on someone's home track goes he does it regularly and many drivers feel honored to be racing with/against such a legend. I'm sure others feel differently but I would personally be honored. I've only ever raced a factory stock in a couple of heat races so the car owner/driver (my Dad) who was hurt would not lose points so I'm no race car driver by any standard.
I am a race fan though and this is a tragedy, and if Stewart did intentionally stay high on the track to intimidate or tease the young man then he shares the blame the way I see it even if he didn't throttle the car. I know enough to understand that in a caution situation a driver should take the bottom of the track unless the wreck is there. I see no criminal actions but it was an avoidable tragedy and now many lives will never be the same.
I am a race fan though and this is a tragedy, and if Stewart did intentionally stay high on the track to intimidate or tease the young man then he shares the blame the way I see it even if he didn't throttle the car. I know enough to understand that in a caution situation a driver should take the bottom of the track unless the wreck is there. I see no criminal actions but it was an avoidable tragedy and now many lives will never be the same.
Thanks for joining a mini bike site and using your one and only post to impart your infinite sprint car wizdom upon is...we are not worthy.
You figured all that out by watching the Youtube clip huh...?..he did all that thinking and calculating at the last instant..?.fascinating.
First he ran him over because he didn't see him..track was dark, black firesuit. He never turned the wheel...the kid threw himself under the car... it was the act of driving over the body that turned the wheels. And it wasn't Tony who gassed the car, it was somebody else on the far end of the track that stomped the throttle....no wait, wait...I know, Tony DID see him, but he instantly computed all of his options and decided that stomping the throttle sliding the car and then pivoting around the kid was the only way to save him.
Too bad it didn't work...oh well at least we now know why he gassed the car and turned the wheels...he was just trying to save the kid.
Awesome job Tony...thanks for trying :thumbsup:
You figured all that out by watching the Youtube clip huh...?..he did all that thinking and calculating at the last instant..?.fascinating.
First he ran him over because he didn't see him..track was dark, black firesuit. He never turned the wheel...the kid threw himself under the car... it was the act of driving over the body that turned the wheels. And it wasn't Tony who gassed the car, it was somebody else on the far end of the track that stomped the throttle....no wait, wait...I know, Tony DID see him, but he instantly computed all of his options and decided that stomping the throttle sliding the car and then pivoting around the kid was the only way to save him.
Too bad it didn't work...oh well at least we now know why he gassed the car and turned the wheels...he was just trying to save the kid.
Awesome job Tony...thanks for trying :thumbsup:
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By no means am I saying there isn't a tragedy here. A life was lost needlessly.
My opinion is that Kevin's wreckless and rage fueled actions are what started and ultimately ended this tragedy. It started when he wouldn't get off the gas and put himself in the wall.
Blame Tony all you want. Kevin tried to play chicken with a moving vehicle and lost.
My opinion is that Kevin's wreckless and rage fueled actions are what started and ultimately ended this tragedy. It started when he wouldn't get off the gas and put himself in the wall.
Blame Tony all you want. Kevin tried to play chicken with a moving vehicle and lost.
I'm new here, so I hope I don't offend anyone with my opinion, but since you asked...
The circle track guys play way to rough to begin with. This is supposed to be "racing", not bumper cars. You're supposed to give the other guy room, not stuff him into the wall like that. The things circle track guys do, would never be allowed in F1.
Tony Stewart is a special kind of idiot. He's already run over 2 pit crew, causing serious injuries. When you're in a car, and someone else is on foot, you have to take special care not to injure that person. Yes, you are your brother's keeper. You didn't see Matt try to run over Tony, after Tony threw his helmet.
Having said that, I feel really sorry for Tony Stewart right now. This guilt will be with him for the rest of his life. He may have finally learned a lesson, but way too late.
The circle track guys play way to rough to begin with. This is supposed to be "racing", not bumper cars. You're supposed to give the other guy room, not stuff him into the wall like that. The things circle track guys do, would never be allowed in F1.
Tony Stewart is a special kind of idiot. He's already run over 2 pit crew, causing serious injuries. When you're in a car, and someone else is on foot, you have to take special care not to injure that person. Yes, you are your brother's keeper. You didn't see Matt try to run over Tony, after Tony threw his helmet.
Having said that, I feel really sorry for Tony Stewart right now. This guilt will be with him for the rest of his life. He may have finally learned a lesson, but way too late.
Tom, you're forgetting the eyewitness accounts.
Kevin was already out of the car by the time Tony was on the front straightaway. You can't tell me Tony wasn't looking at turn 2 to see Kevin storming out of his car. He could have avoided the confrontation by stopping his car right there. But my guess is Tony thought I am going to give him a little scare or kick dirt out at Kevin but his stunt went horribly wrong.
Kevin was already out of the car by the time Tony was on the front straightaway. You can't tell me Tony wasn't looking at turn 2 to see Kevin storming out of his car. He could have avoided the confrontation by stopping his car right there. But my guess is Tony thought I am going to give him a little scare or kick dirt out at Kevin but his stunt went horribly wrong.
Here's the bottom line.
If the car in front of Stewart hits him (Which he damn near did) and kills him, all you would have read was;
Race car driver killed at small track in upstate New York.
Kid decided he was a stunt person with the reflexes of a Cheetah, Darwin said NO.
Sorry story with a sad ending, but the video doesn't lie.
Stewart's car went sideways because it had a body under it.
Only good from all this is there will be new rules, you get out and confront a driver under caution on the track, you will sit for a long time.
For the record, not a Stewart fan nor a hater.
Later,
Keith
If the car in front of Stewart hits him (Which he damn near did) and kills him, all you would have read was;
Race car driver killed at small track in upstate New York.
Kid decided he was a stunt person with the reflexes of a Cheetah, Darwin said NO.
Sorry story with a sad ending, but the video doesn't lie.
Stewart's car went sideways because it had a body under it.
Only good from all this is there will be new rules, you get out and confront a driver under caution on the track, you will sit for a long time.
For the record, not a Stewart fan nor a hater.
Later,
Keith
How bout a little remorse for a kid and his family , yes he did something stupid that many short track drivers have done exactly the same , I don't know the stats on how many out if car races have been killed doing the samething ? I'm leaning towards few to none ! Pomfish , I'm glad you never did anything stupid when you were 20 , I personally know I'm lucky to be here at 50 ! Its a shame and a terrible accident , isn't that enough ?
If all of this "rage on the racetrack" BS was never tolerated (the way it should have been IMHO), it would not have become an accepted part of the sport.
To me the sanctioning bodies should never have allowed this type of action on the track. In the pits, that has been happening forever but to have this type of behavior become commonplace on the racetrack is deplorable.
I am a huge fan of winged dirt sprint car racing, and I will say sadly that if this incident didn't involve Tony Stewart, this would have just been another driver killed at a small dirt oval track, we prob would have never even known about it. It is a dangerous enough sport already, one only has to look at the number of great drivers who got killed or hurt in this sport. I am not a Tony Stewart fan but I don't hate him either.
Unless the car is on fire, drivers are supposed to stay in the car. Why would anyone try and chase down a moving race car while on foot?
This whole incident is an unfortunate tragedy, both drivers prob are at fault but IMHO Ward was a little more at fault plus again I blame the tracks and the sanctioning bodies for allowing and condoning this behavior on the racing surface.
Being a crybaby and throwing a temper tantrum was never tolerated when I was growing up both drivers would be black flagged and disqualified. And they would have fought in the pits afterwards but they both would have lived to race another day. :shrug:
I fear that the media attention will change the sport for the worse, I really hope that doesn't happen but history shows that it prob will.
To me the sanctioning bodies should never have allowed this type of action on the track. In the pits, that has been happening forever but to have this type of behavior become commonplace on the racetrack is deplorable.
I am a huge fan of winged dirt sprint car racing, and I will say sadly that if this incident didn't involve Tony Stewart, this would have just been another driver killed at a small dirt oval track, we prob would have never even known about it. It is a dangerous enough sport already, one only has to look at the number of great drivers who got killed or hurt in this sport. I am not a Tony Stewart fan but I don't hate him either.
Unless the car is on fire, drivers are supposed to stay in the car. Why would anyone try and chase down a moving race car while on foot?
This whole incident is an unfortunate tragedy, both drivers prob are at fault but IMHO Ward was a little more at fault plus again I blame the tracks and the sanctioning bodies for allowing and condoning this behavior on the racing surface.
Being a crybaby and throwing a temper tantrum was never tolerated when I was growing up both drivers would be black flagged and disqualified. And they would have fought in the pits afterwards but they both would have lived to race another day. :shrug:
I fear that the media attention will change the sport for the worse, I really hope that doesn't happen but history shows that it prob will.
Sorry, didn't mean it that way, yes, I did lot's of stupid things. But I never played dodge ball with cars on the freeway.
I tried to get an azzhole local to veer away from a box turtle on the road in front of my house recently and he totally ignored me, aimed for and killed the turtle.
If I had trusted him to step on out into the lane of travel, maybe I would be with Darwin.
I feel terrible for the kid's family. Something that should not have happened, yet it did.
My point was Stewart was not the only car to come way too close to this driver. The other driver certainly wasn't out to get him and was running the same line as Tony, so when people say Tony was way up high, sorry don't see it.
I tried to get an azzhole local to veer away from a box turtle on the road in front of my house recently and he totally ignored me, aimed for and killed the turtle.
If I had trusted him to step on out into the lane of travel, maybe I would be with Darwin.
I feel terrible for the kid's family. Something that should not have happened, yet it did.
My point was Stewart was not the only car to come way too close to this driver. The other driver certainly wasn't out to get him and was running the same line as Tony, so when people say Tony was way up high, sorry don't see it.
