Update on my post of idle issue or save my Briggs

#1
Ok so I followed everyone inputs on this 5 HP Briggs.
My brother took it to his shop.
He machined the bore and inserted a fresh cast iron sleeve.
He put a nice cross hatch pattern on the sleeve.
He decked the mating surfaces on the block and the head.
I purchased a new head gasket.
He polished out the piston on the top and skirt.
I also purchased new standard. ring set for it.
He also polished the lifters.
He even dressed, cleaned and polished the intake and exhaust valves.
Then he finished it off by lapping in the valves.
All in all I guess it can be said this is a new block.
With all that work having been done when I reassembled the Briggs.
There was no change in performance other then it starts on 2 pulls on the rope.
So for the second time I had to break a primary rule I learned in H.S. power mechanics class.
That rule was NEVER EVER BREAK OPEN AN ENGINE unless you are sure you need to.
So after sacrificing another running engine I made this video now I am sure my carburetor is shot.
Also Lady Sentinel did an extremely extensive examination of the main jet.
She broke the bad news to me, she said there were striations wrapping helically around the inside of the main jet.
Oh crap the carburetor has been drilled out.
So if you are still awake and have an interest hit the video.
Reaper (Terry
[video=youtube_share;qhejvJ7BMs4]https://youtu.be/qhejvJ7BMs4[/video])
I wish I could say no engines were harmed in the making of this video.
But I doubt I can.
 
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#2
The Manco Briggs is not running great but is running
well enough that I can smell the new rings burnishing in.
I know at this point I shouldn't run the engine to hard till I get a new carburetor.
Especially since I haven't a governor connected yet.
Since I am pretty convinced my issue is the carburetor.
I asked Lady Sentinel to order a new one for me.
Even though the part number says it is correct the replacement carburetor.
We just can't be sure till it arrives on Tuesday.
So if fortune smiles on me and this turns out to be a good purchase.
I will post a video of a smooth running reconditioned Manco 5HP Briggs.
The next step is to finish cleaning the Torque Converter after which comes the testing said TC.
Followed by checking the kart frame for need repairs and upholstery.
Reaper (Terry )
 
#3
Not happy all that work didn't fix it, but now you've isolated the issue to the carb. Believe it or not, my next door neighbor's riding lawn mower with a 406cc OHV Briggs went up in smoke today with, guess what....a crankcase full of gas and oil. The oil sensor shut it down before the engine blew, but I'm afraid it'll cost more than it's worth to rebuild the engine.

Pete
 
#4
WOW!!! That sucks!!! Dr. Pete,
Yes, The carburetor has always been my prime suspect as the issue.
I believe I miss titled the post though.
I sure hope I can reassemble the donor engine too.
It has low compression but runs strong.
Oh and Thank you for the reply Dr. Pete.
Reaper
 
#5
WOW!!! That sucks!!! Dr. Pete,
Yes, The carburetor has always been my prime suspect as the issue.
I believe I miss titled the post though.
I sure hope I can reassemble the donor engine too.
It has low compression but runs strong.
Oh and Thank you for the reply Dr. Pete.
Reaper
Well good news for my neighbor...after reading your post again and doing some more reading, we isolated the carb as the culprit. Ethanol gas just messes the carb up. He'd installed a fuel line shut off and forgot to turn it off after he cut the grass last. Gas leaked down and by the rings just like your engine. The oil sensor saved the engine...drained and refilled the crankcase, blew out the cylinder, and presto--back up and running. 10 minutes of smoke from all the oil burning off the muffler though! :laugh:Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!:thumbsup:
 
#6
I am glad you neighbor mower wasn't damaged.
I was all set to get the Manco Briggs 5 HP engine running today.
How ever a new issue turned up, the bottom anchor bolt holes won't hold tight.
I wonder if my brothers friends stripped out the threads on the left anchor hole?
When I removed the flywheel, I found that the right anchor hole had a blowout in the casting.
I doubt a heli coil will work here.
So back to my brothers shop to see it he can correct this issue.
I hope he doesn't take long to do the work.
I am wondering if I can used JB Weld and a couple of T Nuts (used to anchor mini bike seats.) would do for this repair?
Left Anchor Thread.JPG
Terry(Reaper)
 
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