How To Modify Kickstands

#21
OGY....the original kickstand that you showed a picture of is an Atwood Butler.

I wouldn't have realized this if i hadn't looked closer after talking to Slywilliez about the kickstand on my Trail Bug. (or lack of and in need)
derek, You are correct. I was just trying to illustrate the "style" of kickstand and wasn't worried whether it was an Atwood Butler or a Cecor. They are both virtually identical. Ogy
 
#23
derek, Because the Trail Bug had two tubes running from the steering head to the motor mounting plate it used the kickstand with the "W" shaped base. The vertical drop for the Fox Campus kickstands was 4.5 inches. However, the Trail Bugs used a larger tire and may have required a longer leg. I've never familiarized myself much with Trail Bugs....just Campuses. Maybe someone on here with a Trail Bug will be able to answer that. Ogy
 
#25
Nothing less than top quality, as allways. your tooling is a nice touch.
Actually George, I debated whether to even do this thread because I was embarrassed to post pics of the hatchet job I did on the tooling. That's not how I normally do things. But I could not justify spending a day or two making benders and jigs just to make eleven pieces. They are now sitting in the scrap bin and I saved myself a whole lot of time that I can use on other parts of my restoration project. Ogy
 
#26
Those tools look fine to me. They worked. That is what is important.

I could see a couple mods to that die and you could reproduce most any kickstand made...
 

george3

Active Member
#27
Actually George, I debated whether to even do this thread because I was embarrassed to post pics of the hatchet job I did on the tooling. That's not how I normally do things. But I could not justify spending a day or two making benders and jigs just to make eleven pieces. They are now sitting in the scrap bin and I saved myself a whole lot of time that I can use on other parts of my restoration project. Ogy
The tooling does not have to look as good as the finish product. Just has to work good and do the job it is made for. If you seen how I do it you would laugh till you seen the finish product.
 
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#28
I successfully re-bent one but it would not work for a show bike since I painted it. I need to remove the one from my new Trailhorse to show what not to do, looks like a five year old bent it to make it work. I plan to fix it and will use this thread for reference.
 

markus

Well-Known Member
#30
thats some dedication right there Ogy! Great stuff too! Its interesting, the GKC bike I had used a shorter stand with the W shaped base and U bracket. It brought the whole assy flush with bottom of the side of the engine plate and was a great fit but also meant the assy hung down pretty low. I wonder if they switched due to clearance or if it was just cheaper/easier for assy.

here was the stand (far left). I parts swapped an used a flat base so I could install it on a 4" wheeled lil indian. I believe it is a cecor although not stamped cecor, but the number 12901 is stamped on it (backside) looks more like a cecor than any of the other manufacturers marks

 
#31
Markus, From what information I can gather Fox originally used the flat base kickstand along with the U-shaped channel to allow the leg to hang down below the bottom of the motor plate. When they started making models like the Trail Bug which had two downtubes from the steering head to the motor mount they used the W shaped base without the U-shaped piece...see pic below. Over the years I've seen Foxes with different combinations of the two types of bases and with and without the U-shaped channel. The problem with using the flat base with the U-shaped channel is that U tended to squish out along the sides as the bolt was tightened and the kickstands were always loose. I'm using the flat bases on my bikes but instead of the U shaped spacer I'm using a two inch long piece of 1-1/2" X 3/4" X .049" rectangular chromolly tubing. That way the bolt can be tightened sufficiently without the spacer squashing and loosening. I see you have a nice selection of kickstands there. Want to buy a cheap, slightly used, bender...lol. Ogy
 
#32
Got my parts back from the zinc plating company today and I am grinning from ear to ear. Tried a new company this time. Last place I sent parts to gave me a frosty finish although I specifically asked for a "brite zinc finish". I sent this batch to a company called Old School Plating in Bear Delaware and they came back absolutely gorgeous. From the day I shipped the parts out till the time they arrived back at my front door took only ten days. They'll do it quicker if you want them to. I sent them more than 72 pieces and the total cost including shipping was $165.00. The pics below give you an idea of what the parts look like but you would have to see them in person to appreciate the quality of the finish. It's not often I find a company whose work totally satisfies me; but when I do I like to give them two thumbs from Ogy!
 
#37
Cool:thumbsup: Did you already start putting them back together.
Not yet. All my finished Fox Campus parts have been itemized, categorized, labeled, and stored safely away. When the last parts have been finished I intend to devote three to four months to assembling them all at one time. Ogy
 

buckeye

Well-Known Member
#38
That process needs to be filmed!!
I can't wait to see these together.
Just the ride along, watching you do everything is a treat.
Thanks for sharing Ogy.
Have fun at Windber!:thumbsup:
 
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