What do you understand concerning income tax?

[metal man]

well if you look at none of this shit has any worth nothing not gold not sliver diamonds
none of its worth anything at all . you only think it is because your told its worth something . greed by humans the i want it or i have it and you dont so to get something from you ill say you have to do xxx to get the shiny rock .

just like the stupid end of the world prepers that scream that gold will save them and bla bla bla . because its been used forever in trade , well funny thing is if i have the flour and you have the gold i can eat my wealth and live you can do what with your gold ?
if i have no use or need of the gold its just a dead weight lump .
so if you dont want to play in this system get off your computer , shut off the lights . pack a bag with some tools and food and walk way way far into the woods and build a cabin . there your work is your own and you can see just what you have .

and paper is the magic materiel its the only liquid that turns solid and turns solids into liquid .

 

[machinebike]

Here's what I know about taxes: Don't pay them, and they take everything away from you, and throw you in prison.

It doesn't MATTER whether you think it's not legal for them to tax us, the SUPREME COURT has said it's LEGAL.

THEY have "the power". They can pressure us and make us lose everything we've ever worked for, and have caused people to kill themselves to get away from them.

We have NOTHING individually that we can use to ever make them back off and leave us alone, UNLESS we pay our taxes like good little serfs, and play the game.

I choose to play the game. It's the path of least resistance, and makes them pretty much leave me alone. It sucks, it costs a lot of money I could use for other things, but it is, what it is, the law of the land.

People dont qustion what they dont understand. Once you understand, the urge to ask questions will come natural.
Everyone believes income taxes is payments for using money they receive. And if people continue to believe that without the desire to understand more, then they will continue to take out of your account because by not asking questions, indicates you do not understand nor mind. Then if you pass but have children, they will continue to take from them.

People are not asking the right questions, thats the reason you do not get the right answers. Doubt if a 'legal' system will voluntarliy give you the right answers to the wrong questions.

Common mistake concerning income tax....People think they recieve money in their account after they work.
But they are not receivng money, they are receiving 'non-backed' currency that becomes 'labor-backed' currency. When is the last time you heard an argument containing that info? Once you reach the correct information, is when debates diminish. Other words, if its correct, you will recognize it.

 

[jbrewton]

I would rather trade in minibikes, get paid in minibikes and have the universal currency in minibikes in Fort Knox!

Just sayin' gold does me little good!

If you want to buck the system, go for it, we'll watch and bake you a cake with a file in it and deliver it to you in prison!

You're not going to find a group on OldMiniBikes who's going to storm the IRS building with pitch forks with you!

 

[machinebike]

METAL MAN... reread my posts to understand it is not the gold or silver has more importance, but your labor it would represent. Your labor is real value, and gold/silver is real value.

Your labor is real value but the currency is valueless, that's why its easy to take advantage of someone account, because you cannot see the real value like you could with gold or silver.

One example:
The "banks" would not have been able to suck up a lot of overdraft fees if your labor was backed by soemthing valuble, not just numbers. Notice how difficult it is to prove when they take what they should not take out of your account?
To you, its hours or years of your life, to them its a few keystrokes.

45T,
You are not immuned from this system of paper. Im sharing this info hoping someone else read it it will grasp the seriousness of it, if they care about their life savings or their labor being collected out of their account in the form of "income tax".
Prices keep going up so they can keep collecting 'labor backed' currency to replace the non-backed currency they keep printing and spending.
But chances are, you did not know that.
Does not knowing it make it get better?
Look at the numbers on costs over the years, notice how they keep gradually increasing? Notice how they keep taking more and more out for taxes? When do they stop taking? They printed unlimited billions, so how can they they stop taking your pay for themselves?

Have you heard the boiling frog scenerio? Where the heat gets turned up little by little so the frog doesnt recognize he is boiling to death and when he finally realizes it, he's too weak to save himself by jumping out?

Look at the numbers over the years, and you may recognize that scenerio being done to the economy. And if you do not care enough to ask questions for yourself, then you should ask for your children.

you should atleast ask yuor tax collector or share info with family memebers to see if they agree or diasgree, then maybe they too, will ask questions.

 

[Itype2slo]

Dude are you Wesley Snipes? I loved major league. When do you get out?:thumbsup:

 

[texasfabguy]

METAL MAN... reread my posts to understand it is not the gold or silver has more importance, but your labor it would represent. Your labor is real value, and gold/silver is real value.

Your labor is real value but the currency is valueless, that's why its easy to take advantage of someone account, because you cannot see the real value like you could with gold or silver.

One example:
The "banks" would not have been able to suck up a lot of overdraft fees if your labor was backed by soemthing valuble, not just numbers. Notice how difficult it is to prove when they take what they should not take out of your account?
To you, its hours or years of your life, to them its a few keystrokes.

45T,
You are not immuned from this system of paper. Im sharing this info hoping someone else read it it will grasp the seriousness of it, if they care about their life savings or their labor being collected out of their account in the form of "income tax".
Prices keep going up so they can keep collecting 'labor backed' currency to replace the non-backed currency they keep printing and spending.
But chances are, you did not know that.
Does not knowing it make it get better?
Look at the numbers on costs over the years, notice how they keep gradually increasing? Notice how they keep taking more and more out for taxes? When do they stop taking? They printed unlimited billions, so how can they they stop taking your pay for themselves?

Have you heard the boiling frog scenerio? Where the heat gets turned up little by little so the frog doesnt recognize he is boiling to death and when he finally realizes it, he's too weak to save himself by jumping out?

Look at the numbers over the years, and you may recognize that scenerio being done to the economy. And if you do not care enough to ask questions for yourself, then you should ask for your children.

you should atleast ask yuor tax collector or share info with family memebers to see if they agree or diasgree, then maybe they too, will ask questions.

So how are YOU going to fix this problem? I want to see results,not trying to tell us that a lot of us know what happened in the 1900's. all this straw man shit don't fix anything and repeating articles from the 50's don't make you any smarter today than it was back then. The fact is,the results are the same.

 

[fistfullabar]

Health is wealth if and time is money and spending time is with your loved ones is priceless then what good is gold knowledge is the real currency I don't have a job because raising my son is priceless therefore I don't pay taxes don't stop us from living good and riding mini bikes plus IM sick of all this B.S. from some guys 200 yes ago wearing wigs and owning slaves talking about freedom

 

[Fred G Sanford]

Paying taxes is part of belonging to the greatest club on earth, my taxes help my club be the best in the history of man.

Belonging to Club America = priceless!

 

[Sinner70]

Is this dude for real?
Ive read about these kind of guys. They call them "sovereign citizens".
google it, you'll see what I mean.

I work, I pay, I play and repeat.

 

[buckeye]

Yeah, totally remember this guy.

Search his threads. This is simular propoganda he was spreading previously.

However, he does creat some thinking. We are all getting tired of being taxed and having horible representation.

Some of his points makes sense. Unfortuanetly, we have no choice in the tax issue. We are employed. We and our employers are required by law to pay.
Either you pay or you eventually end up in prison.

I for one do not want prison in my future in any way.

He will rile your feathers with his twisting and tangleing of his words. Think about some of what he has to say, then compare it to logical references, and decide for yourself.

He is no different than the local, regional, and national newsmakers who make a feable attemp at directing our thoughts.

So has the mini bike building going?? Never did see a single photo or thread about any mini bikes.
You are so good with your fingers on the keyboard, I bet you're hell with a 4.5 inch angle grinder. Lets see what you build.

Then we can decide what or who you are. Never trust a man who don't build or at the least, ride a mini bike!:laugh:

 

[machinebike]

Ive may have tried explaining a mortgage last time here, cant rememebr. but since i udenrstand the currency better, I can explain the mortgage easier to understand, so you can see how the financial parasites steal from homeowner using the homeowners permission ....

Mortgage--> dead pledge.
You are pledging your house as collateral to pay back a loan you were never given. You were given an illusion, not a loan....
Trying to write it quick and simple to uderstand....
On the mortgage documents, they switched the word 'credit' with the word 'loan'.
Read the difference:
In retuen for the loan you recieved...compared to....
In return for the credit you recieved....
That one word "loan" causes us to believe they gave up something of value we had to pay back plus interest.

But what they did--> After you agree to all the bogus charges they attach to your credit because you thought it was a loan...lets say it adds up to over half a million for 30 years.
They take the number representing that amount and change it into non-backed currency. They use enough to "purchase" (not buy) your house, then they keep and invest the rest for themselves. Thats it. That was your so-called loan.
Now you have to work for 30 years to create 'labor backed' currency, and that will replace the non-backed currency they printed out and used as your credit.
Can you see what they are doing? You believe you are paying back a loan plus interest, but instead, you are paying on your own credit!

Who in their sane mind would have agreed to this if they were told the truth before signing?

I share this, not to frustrate you more, but to show you what the financial parasites are doing with your permission! Now, look up the billions being printed and spent without backing. How safe is your life savings if they own the currency even though you own the invisible labor?

Think about it it and start asking the right questions. They get away with this because they know we don't understand it. So we give them our 'trust', and they take advantage of it.

Go to your local bank manager and ask to speak to the mortgage specialist. Ask her what exactly was the value of the loan supposedly given with a mortgage?

I went to wells fargo, asked supervisor or specialist (dont remember which) and when she could no longer convince me real value or money was given, she eventually told me "charged for using their currency".
And that lines up with.... taking homeowners credit and turning it into the non-backed currency with fees (interest) attached.

 

[texasfabguy]

Ive may have tried explaining a mortgage last time here, cant rememebr. but since i udenrstand the currency better, I can explain the mortgage easier to understand, so you can see how the financial parasites steal from homeowner using the homeowners permission ....

Mortgage--> dead pledge.
You are pledging your house as collateral to pay back a loan you were never given. You were given an illusion, not a loan....
Trying to write it quick and simple to uderstand....
On the mortgage documents, they switched the word 'credit' with the word 'loan'.
Read the difference:
In retuen for the loan you recieved...compared to....
In return for the credit you recieved....
That one word "loan" causes us to believe they gave up something of value we had to pay back plus interest.

But what they did--> After you agree to all the bogus charges they attach to your credit because you thought it was a loan...lets say it adds up to over half a million for 30 years.
They take the number representing that amount and change it into non-backed currency. They use enough to "purchase" (not buy) your house, then they keep and invest the rest for themselves. Thats it. That was your so-called loan.
Now you have to work for 30 years to create 'labor backed' currency, and that will replace the non-backed currency they printed out and used as your credit.
Can you see what they are doing? You believe you are paying back a loan plus interest, but instead, you are paying on your own credit!

Who in their sane mind would have agreed to this if they were told the truth before signing?

I share this, not to frustrate you more, but to show you what the financial parasites are doing with your permission! Now, look up the billions being printed and spent without backing. How safe is your life savings if they own the currency even though you own the invisible labor?

Think about it it and start asking the right questions. They get away with this because they know we don't understand it. So we give them our 'trust', and they take advantage of it.

Go to your local bank manager and ask to speak to the mortgage specialist. Ask her what exactly was the value of the loan supposedly given with a mortgage?

I went to wells fargo, asked supervisor or specialist (dont remember which) and when she could no longer convince me real value or money was given, she eventually told me "charged for using their currency".
And that lines up with.... taking homeowners credit and turning it into the non-backed currency with fees (interest) attached.

What are you going to do about it?

 

[texasfabguy]

I'm not saying he's wrong,I'm saying he's just not right....

 

[jbrewton]

This guy is most likely one of those Canadians eh?

 

[texasfabguy]

This guy is most likely one of those Canadians eh?

Yep

 

[Bikerscum]

Why are you guys giving the nut job air time again?

 

[Spyderdregg]

Everyone is missing the point.Its not about Taxes or gold or labor or george Washingtons wig,you want to know what its really about......Aliens...there,I said it,yep thats right Aliens.We pay unnessisary taxes on invisable money to fund the Illuminate who are really the totalitarian puppets for our Alien overlords who use the aformentioned invisable money to keep Evis' head frozen til it can be grafted on an Alien/human hybrid child that Nostridames predicted would be born to rise up,tame the chupicabras that were genetically created in the early 60's to assassinate JFK,into an unstoppable army that will be set upon the earth to bring about death and destruction all leading up to the second coming of Ronald Reagan,who shall bath the earth in Bryl cream and jelly beans.

Thats why we pay taxes.....now I need to take my medication :wink:

 

[jbrewton]

Everyone is missing the point.Its not about Taxes or gold or labor or george Washingtons wig,you want to know what its really about......Aliens...there,I said it,yep thats right Aliens.We pay unnessisary taxes on invisable money to fund the Illuminate who are really the totalitarian puppets for our Alien overlords who use the aformentioned invisable money to keep Evis' head frozen til it can be grafted on an Alien/human hybrid child that Nostridames predicted would be born to rise up,tame the chupicabras that were genetically created in the early 60's to assassinate JFK,into an unstoppable army that will be set upon the earth to bring about death and destruction all leading up to the second coming of Ronald Reagan,who shall bath the earth in Bryl cream and jelly beans.

Thats why we pay taxes.....now I need to take my medication :wink:

Holy crap, that's what I was thinking!

 

[mlanzoni]

Just Stop !! I thought I was going to learn how to pay less taxes, or cheat sickness and death. Can anyone tell me this useful info ? :wink:

 

[Neck]

I went to wells fargo, asked supervisor or specialist (dont remember which) and when she could no longer convince me real value or money was given, she eventually told me "charged for using their currency".
And that lines up with.... taking homeowners credit and turning it into the non-backed currency with fees (interest) attached.

Did you stop talking after she told you this?
It was probably all she could do to keep from busting out laughing at that point!