1972 Z50 still in crate
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Whats the old saying? IF IT LOOKS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE ITS PROBABLY NOT? I belive it to be a restored bike that was done like this for a fool with alot of money! they say that they are easily seperated? i dont think honda was wrapping the fenders and using bubble wrap on certail parts of the bike? who ever gets it will not be happy when anyone who is a honda geek tells him he paid way too much for a fake! i am also thinking the seller bought it thinking it was original, but is trying to sell when he found out it was not real?
there was a couple guys in the late 90's call Honda Heaven, they were building bikes out of nos parts and selling them as new. i belive this to be one of those, because they would sell them in a crate just like this. also there is no decal on the side cover, honda never shipped the bikes with the wheels on them or the stickers on the tires.
The bike is a restored 1972 with the wrong engine, the engine in the bike is a 1970-71 I would say it is a 1970, 1970 to 71 engine numbers start at SNZ50AE-270236 AND END ON Z50AE-999,999
1972 engine numbers and frame numbers are the first year for 7 digit vin.
1972 engine numbers are Z50AE-1000001 AND END ON Z50AE-2999999
1972 engine numbers and frame numbers are the first year for 7 digit vin.
1972 engine numbers are Z50AE-1000001 AND END ON Z50AE-2999999
Here is his response to me...atleast he didn't call me Larry this time.
"I think by now your head is all screwed up. I know for sure that is the original 49.cc motor that came with this bike. Straight from factory to the dealership where my farther bought it. Has bill of sale from dealership, dealer No. 162-1. Purchase date 4/22/72 an sold for $334.95 As far as why numbers are not matching from engine to frame, who knows why ?. Honda could of changed blocks at a point in time at trying to save cost. So keep talking to own it.."
- bcgot
"I think by now your head is all screwed up. I know for sure that is the original 49.cc motor that came with this bike. Straight from factory to the dealership where my farther bought it. Has bill of sale from dealership, dealer No. 162-1. Purchase date 4/22/72 an sold for $334.95 As far as why numbers are not matching from engine to frame, who knows why ?. Honda could of changed blocks at a point in time at trying to save cost. So keep talking to own it.."
- bcgot
Can the kid be that big of a idiot? its starting to get entertaining..
I found this on line the engine came out of a 1970 without a doubt
http://honda50.com/vindecoder/modelvindecoder.html
I found this on line the engine came out of a 1970 without a doubt
http://honda50.com/vindecoder/modelvindecoder.html
I dont think I have ever in my life typed LOL but im rollin on this one look at his feed back and what he has been buying... but it is real I tell you... bunch of sceptic haters you are...:laugh::laugh: even tires with the bar code...
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You guys are fooling yourself if you think Ebay will pull the auction for that reason. They want their cut of the action. Now if HONDA themselves asked Ebay to pull the auction, it would be done immediately.
I used to flag auctions where this one guy is selling TOY plastic slot machines as full size ANTIQUES, and he is getting big bucks for them. He takes a perspective photo that makes them look full size, and VERY carefully words his auction to be misleading, BUT, careful enough for a non stary-eyed bidder to realize it's phony.
Ebay has never pulled one of his auctions, and he still runs them every so often and is making $400 UP on each sale for a $50 at most toy. There are MILLIONS of auctions on Ebay at any one time, and there's very specific reasons in their rules to pull auctions, and this won't even get their attention.
For all we know, the lister is just uninformed, and truly thinks the bike is real as he has stated. There are plenty of people out there that believe everything they are told, and won't change their minds even in the face of overwhelming proof. Ebay masked the bidder id's years ago, so people could NOT email them directly and tell them the auction they are bidding on is phony... We used to do that all the time, in the coin-machine area, to protect bidders that didn't know better.
I used to flag auctions where this one guy is selling TOY plastic slot machines as full size ANTIQUES, and he is getting big bucks for them. He takes a perspective photo that makes them look full size, and VERY carefully words his auction to be misleading, BUT, careful enough for a non stary-eyed bidder to realize it's phony.
Ebay has never pulled one of his auctions, and he still runs them every so often and is making $400 UP on each sale for a $50 at most toy. There are MILLIONS of auctions on Ebay at any one time, and there's very specific reasons in their rules to pull auctions, and this won't even get their attention.
For all we know, the lister is just uninformed, and truly thinks the bike is real as he has stated. There are plenty of people out there that believe everything they are told, and won't change their minds even in the face of overwhelming proof. Ebay masked the bidder id's years ago, so people could NOT email them directly and tell them the auction they are bidding on is phony... We used to do that all the time, in the coin-machine area, to protect bidders that didn't know better.
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