its time to stand up and heard not sit and be quiet
NOS,
Go to www.yellowforum.com the largest airgun forum anywhere. There are sections for Chinese ( that gun) and Crosman. Nice folks there, they will bend over backwards to help & answer any questions you might have.
Oiling the spring/piston/seal will kill it. Might be what killed your Crosman. Believe it or not the compression chamber in there reaches temps high enough to ignite the oil with one pump. The gun diesels just like a truck engine... you can smell it. Some lube is ok but it can't be a petroleum product.
Odd huh?
Go to www.yellowforum.com the largest airgun forum anywhere. There are sections for Chinese ( that gun) and Crosman. Nice folks there, they will bend over backwards to help & answer any questions you might have.
Oiling the spring/piston/seal will kill it. Might be what killed your Crosman. Believe it or not the compression chamber in there reaches temps high enough to ignite the oil with one pump. The gun diesels just like a truck engine... you can smell it. Some lube is ok but it can't be a petroleum product.
Odd huh?
You know that though just occured to me before i read your post.
I was shooting and could smell the product of ignition...
I did my best to clear compression chamber with a few empty shots.
But I could still smell an ignition.
Thanls for the tip Chinese instructions say to oil it.
Clean and oil......
No speciufication for the oil though.
What do you use?
I have some Fluid film.
Thats lanolin and wool wax.
Does not burn as redily as a petroluem product and is good for leather.
I use that on lantern pumps.
I was shooting and could smell the product of ignition...
I did my best to clear compression chamber with a few empty shots.
But I could still smell an ignition.
Thanls for the tip Chinese instructions say to oil it.
Clean and oil......
No speciufication for the oil though.
What do you use?
I have some Fluid film.
Thats lanolin and wool wax.
Does not burn as redily as a petroluem product and is good for leather.
I use that on lantern pumps.
It needs to be non petroleum so it won't ignite. Crosman sells a lube called Pellgun Oil that will work. Or any synthetic oil I guess. What happens is cocking the gun compresses the spring. Firing the gun unleashes the spring sending a piston with a rubber or leather seal screaming down the compression tube at a million mile per hour compressing the air in the chamber to a thousand PSI or so, superheated like a diesel engine, the air goes thru a transfer port to behind the pellet & it goes out the barrel. Put just a drop of oil in there & you have an explosion that will melt the seal. As I said, you can smell it. And hear it.
More bad news...
The system depends on the pellet being in the barrel to keep it from destroying itself. The piston is screaming through the compression chamber heading for certain death. What stops it is the air it's compressing. The pellet has plugged the escape path. At some point near the end of the piston travel, the pressure hits it's peak... again, KPSI, the piston stops, can go no more, and actually reverses direction... bounces off the compressed air. At this same time, the pellet is overcome by the pressure & goes down the barrel. The piston, still driven by the spring, reverses again & coasts to a stop.
Now, leave out the pellet, fire the gun & the piston slams face first into the end of the compression chamber.... no compressed air to stop it. Bad thing. It might survive a trip or two, but it's certain death.
They don't put this in the instructions, huh?
More bad news...
The system depends on the pellet being in the barrel to keep it from destroying itself. The piston is screaming through the compression chamber heading for certain death. What stops it is the air it's compressing. The pellet has plugged the escape path. At some point near the end of the piston travel, the pressure hits it's peak... again, KPSI, the piston stops, can go no more, and actually reverses direction... bounces off the compressed air. At this same time, the pellet is overcome by the pressure & goes down the barrel. The piston, still driven by the spring, reverses again & coasts to a stop.
Now, leave out the pellet, fire the gun & the piston slams face first into the end of the compression chamber.... no compressed air to stop it. Bad thing. It might survive a trip or two, but it's certain death.
They don't put this in the instructions, huh?
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Ya they do but its Chinese, and something like English.....
With nothing in the barrel I did have the muzel up againts some rags.
I did consider the possibility of that heavy spring slamming the piston.
At least its not a hand grenade and I am typing you a question like what is this pin for lol.
With nothing in the barrel I did have the muzel up againts some rags.
I did consider the possibility of that heavy spring slamming the piston.
At least its not a hand grenade and I am typing you a question like what is this pin for lol.
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ok i saw at least one post asking what need civilians have for assault weapons and why they aren't restricted to military and L.E.O.s my primary response is simply they're a kick in the ass to shoot. why restrict one hobby that generates gobs of yearly government revenue, when quite frankly it wont change a thing. except now you and me wont own said assault weapons only criminals. and for the crazies who wanna make a seen by killing people, a truck driven through a crowd can kill as many as quickly as a gun. best way to stop this crap is remove the term Criminally Ill from judicial policy.
I finally heard something sensible about this whole issue on Tv today a woman said that as much effort being put into gun control should ALSO be put into mental health. Years ago they changed the laws so mentally ill people couldn't be held they had to be freed and put back into society that's where this all started. Oh and how many remember the "saturday night special" gun ban years ago, it started out the same way but lawmakers tried to put any gun on the list that they could. I remember them trying to put any handgun with a 4" or shorter barrel on the list. Hmmm A Colt Python, a S&W model 29, Any Dan Wesson with a 4"barrel??? Thats how they start and we have to stand up to them now. Just my 2 cents.
This is why I carry. And this explains things much better than I ever could!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCegKb55AGI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCegKb55AGI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
